Do We Need FHRP (HSRP or VRRP) For IPv6?

Justin asked an interesting question in a comment to my IPv6 On-Link Determination post: do we need HSRP for IPv6 as the routers already send out RA messages? Pavel quickly pointed out that my friend @packetlife already wrote about it, concluding that you could use RAs unless you need deterministic sub-second failover.

However, there are (as always) a few more gotchas:

RA-based failover relies on host IP stack. You never know what the hosts will do once a router’s lifetime expires (I’ve seen quite a few unexpected things in the IPv6 world already), and the behavior might change after a software update.

You might not want to use RAs in environments where some hosts (particularly servers) are not dual-stacked, as the IPv4-only hosts might decide they want to use IPv6 even though they don’t have a valid IPv6 address.

RAs are processed by every host. If you decide to use fast RA-based failover, every server (or VM) in your network will have to process several RAs per second. Not a problem, unless you have thousands of VMs – heaps of small overhead tend to add up.

2014-03-25: Another gotcha: RA-based failover probably won't work in MLAG environments.

6 comments:

  1. http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5798

    For IPv6, the advantage gained from using VRRP for IPv6 is a quicker switchover to Backup routers than can be obtained with standard IPv6 Neighbor Discovery mechanisms.

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    1. ... which is approximately what I wrote in the first paragraph ;)

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  2. Absolutely! We need the same predictable behavior for all clients in particular subnet, so the only way to do this - take control of it with HSRP (FHRP). Cisco already have examples (in pure masked GNS3) that we can use HSRP fo IPv6
    www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk648/tk362/technologies_configuration_example09186a0080b9119e.shtml
    IOU here to come :) Or Cisco guys do not heared about it?
    Also we have VRRP fo IPv6 tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5798

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  3. And more: with HSRP we have a lot of functionality: preemption with different set of timers, tracking (interfaces, addresses and other), authentication (do not know do we really need this but steel).
    Also Cisco have GLBP for IPv6
    supportforums.cisco.com/docs/DOC-23397, without any functionality pure GLBP is better that FHRP based on RA in case of load balancing.

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    1. Thought, that some VRRP implementations for IPv6 do also have those functionality (preemption, tracking, authentication, load balacning)?

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  4. IPv6 VRRP ALCATEL-LUCENT

    ABC# configure service ies 250004
    ABC>config>service>ies# info
    ----------------------------------------------


    ABC# configure router router-advertisement
    ABC>config>router>router-advert# info
    ----------------------------------------------

    interface "ABC"
    use-virtual-mac
    no shutdown
    exit
    ----------------------------------------------
    ABC>config>router>router-advert#

    description "ABC"
    interface "ABC" create
    address 100.100.200.2/28
    cflowd interface
    vrrp 90
    backup 100.100.200.1
    ping-reply
    standby-forwarding
    exit
    ipv6
    address 2001:2222:FCF:FF00::2/56 preferred --------- GLOBAL ADDRESS ------
    link-local-address FE80::111:5FF:FED6:E12D preferred --------------- LINK LOCAL ADDRESS ----
    vrrp 91
    backup 2001:2222:FCF:FF00::1 --------------------- GLOBAL ADDRESS BACKUP ------
    backup FE80::111:5FF:FED6:E12C --------------- LINK LOCAL ADDRESS BACKUP ----
    ping-reply
    standby-forwarding
    exit
    exit
    sap 5/9/19:600 create
    exit
    exit
    service-name "ABC"
    no shutdown
    ----------------------------------------------
    ABC>config>service>ies#

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