Yap Chin Hoong has been looking at the OSI protocol stack I’ve published in the CT3 wiki and asked an interesting question: “where is CLNS in that protocol stack?”
The OSI protocol stack has a major advantage over the TCP/IP stack: it defines both the protocols and the APIs between the layers. CLNS (Connection-less network Service) is the API (the function calls that allow transport layers to exchange datagrams across the network) while CLNP (Connection-less network Protocol) is the layer-3 protocol that implements CLNS. In my diagram, CLNS would be a thin line above CLNP between L3 and L4 boxes.
IOS developers did not escape the confusion between CLNS and CLNP. The clns routing command does not make sense; you cannot route an API. The command should have been called clnp routing.
It means CLNS is like device driver.
ReplyDeleteHi Ivan, thanks for answering my question. :-)
ReplyDeleteKindly address me in full name, cuz my first name should be Chin Hoong instead, Yap is the surname. :-)
I am still in the midst of studying the theory of IS-IS (yes it is obsolete in CCNP syllabus but I studying for my own good), I haven't spend many times in labbing IS-IS stuffs, I believe I will have better visualization when I capture the packets upon the "ping clns" command. :-)
thanks and have a nice day... expect more questions from me in the future. 8-)
Oh, my ... I apologize for the blunder. I'm used to the surname being last; another one of those culture-specific things that I'm totally unaware of. Thank you!
ReplyDeleteWhen you do a capture on a LAN segment between two routers, you should see ES-IS packets (routers advertising themselves to non-existent hosts), IS-IS packets (obvious) as well as CLNP packets (when you do ping).
Really thanks for the info, I spent quite some times today trying to figure out how to capture ES-IS packets, even thought of running OpenVMS and configuring DECnet. =-X
ReplyDeleteHey Guys,
ReplyDeleteI was wondering if you could help me...
I've been studying IS-IS because I'll be participating in a intense course in the mid August and I'm trying to be a bit proactive.
Anyways...
I'm really trying to figure out CLNS's role with IS-IS and it seems like this topic is ambiguous and no one can give me a straight answer.
I've read a book that says "OSI suite is also referred to as the CLNS suite", that "CLNS + CLNP = IP (in the TCP/IP stack)..
You wrote: "In my diagram, CLNS would be a thin line above CLNP between L3 and L4 boxes."
However, this site shows: http://www.cellsoft.de/telecom/dcn.htm
that it's a thin line between layer 2 and 3.
I need some help and if you guys could reply, that would be fantastic..